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The Muskeg Magician
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Upon reviewing the HP ratings for some of the newer machines, I'm quite dissapointed to hear that the '09 Brute has no power increase while the Polaris(850XT) and Can-ams(Renegade, Outlander) have both increased HP in comparable models. I also find it strange that some of the single cylinder engines(KinqQuad) are so close to the BF. These are last years ratings:

AC 1000_________65.84 hp
Can Am 800______61.7 hp
Can Am 650______55.4 hp
Brute 750 Carb____50.1 hp
Polaris 800_______50.1 hp
Brute 750 EFI_____49.8 hp
King Quad 750____49.6 hp
King 700_________48.5 hp
Grizzly 700________45.6 hp
Polaris 700_______44.3 hp
AC 700 H1_______41.4 hp
AC 700__________41.4 hp
Grizzly 660_______40.9 hp
Can Am 500______40.4 hp
AC 650 H1_______39.3 hp
Rincon 680_______38.5 hp

Here is a link for the compliance certificate for the 2009 Can-ams:

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/ofhrv/ofmcatv_comply/2009/bombardier_atv_um0100062r1_800.pdf

I dont remember the calculation for KW to HP but I think thats around 70HP:eek:. The brute is still hovering around 50:zx11pissed:.

I hear the Polaris 850XT is right around 75HP:bigeyes:.

The last thing we need is Po-Po's making us look bad.

Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts. Is kawasaki *****ing the bed here?
 

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No idea but they better be back in the game when I buy my next bike. I love my brute, but I'm buying the best most powerful bike for the money next bike, same as I did with this one.

If I were buying a new bike today it would be a PoPo 850 or a Canned ham 800R
 

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you fellas just hang on. We'll be getting the scoop on the 2010 lineup here in a bout 3 months. Should be seeing a new diff engament system and I have a feeling you will definitely see 850 class machine.
What's funny though is, even with our less HP comparatively, we still hanging with if not beatng those 850's.

i bleed team green!
 

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amen cant wait for the 2010
 

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Brute Force all the way!!! I've been on the trial with them all and wouldn't do anything different next time.
 

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Phreebsd where did you hear that there would be a different diff engament one off the reasons I bought a brute was because there was still some simplesity to it as far as mechanical parts not all the automatic engaugments and diff locks
 

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Have you checked the $$ for those machines?

The Brute can hang and beat some of those bikes (might need a mod or 3 for the Renegade) and still affordable. And really, once your going 60+ mph, how much faster do you need to go on a trail?

No doubt the Polaris and Can-am are nice, fast and a great ride......but for reliability, do it yourself fixability and cost of replacment parts....I'll take my Brute or even a Honda before them.
 

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i rode a 09 800r outlander before i bought my brute. i cant see spending 10,000 on a can am. then u needa put skids on it first thing.. brute is alot better in my book
 

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Ill keep my brute, its less money than all the others.
 

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I love my kawi and would not have anything else. The brutes may be down in the numbers area but they make great use of the power they have. Sometimes it comes down to the rider on the machine anyway.
 

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I love mine even after breaking 3 axles over the course of 2 rides. lol The bottom line like someone said before id none of the other bikes have the online do-it-yourself support like Kawi does.

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Love my brute, cant wait for the 2010 line up, even though I wont be able to afford one, I still wanna know what they have up there sleeve:rockn:
 

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AC 1000_________65.84 hp
Can Am 800______61.7 hp
Can Am 650______55.4 hp
Brute 750 Carb____50.1 hp
Polaris 800_______50.1 hp
Brute 750 EFI_____49.8 hp
King Quad 750____49.6 hp
King 700_________48.5 hp
Grizzly 700________45.6 hp
Polaris 700_______44.3 hp
Brute 650 SRA____42.0 hp
AC 700 H1_______41.4 hp
AC 700__________41.4 hp
Grizzly 660_______40.9 hp
Can Am 500______40.4 hp
AC 650 H1_______39.3 hp
Rincon 680_______38.5 hp
Let us not forget the mighty Brute 650 :wall:
 

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How about the weight of all the bikes? I would like to see what the power to weight ratio is on each of them.
 

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^ Beefy


<---beefy too :(
 

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i would like too see atv with 4 cylinder
 

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that will likely never happen do to weight and power restrictions.
 

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How are the power restrictions managed?
 
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